Glen Carlson did a lot of unglamorous searching through microfilm with us for this story.
Glen Carlson asks us to help him figure out whether the Bay store downtown really used to have a Christmas train on the rooftop.
A glitzy-looking shot of the Bay at Christmas in the 1960s, with a village facade wrapped around the building. [HBC Archives, HBCA 1987-363-E-610 – 49]There’s a lot riding on the answer, because Glen’s wife, friends, and most of his family – pretty much everyone he knows – think he made it up.
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Our journey started at the City of Edmonton Archives, since it seemed like the kind of thing that might be captured in a photograph or a newspaper article. Archivist Melissa McCarthy helped us start looking there.
We like to share a laugh with Melissa McCarthy at the City of Edmonton Archives.
Glen was born in 1952, so we started digging there.
Tiny Glen! When he was 2 or 3.
Christmas displays were a big deal at the Bay, just like they were at other big department stores downtown at the time.
An ad for the Bay’s Pre-Christmas Sale in the Edmonton Journal on November 18, 1952.
We found a hilarious article from the Edmonton Bulletin on Christmas Eve, 1908, where the writer seems to have fallen asleep near the end.
After a lot of scrolling through microfilm and flipping through clipping files for the Bay and for Christmas, we struck gold.
A clipping from the Edmonton Journal on November 20, 1964 blew this story wide open.
And Lisa Friesen at the Hudson’s Bay Company Archives, at the Archives of Manitoba, found us these gems in their collection.
A group of children lined up on the roof from what was then called the Winnifred Stewart School for Retarded Children. [Hudson’s Bay Company Archives, HBCA 1987-363-E-610 – 50]
The train runs behind a prop igloo on the roof [Hudson’s Bay Company Archives, HBCA 1987-363-E-610 – 52]
The train running around the snowy roof, with figures inside behind the windows. [Hudson’s Bay Company Archives, HBCA 1987-363-E-610 – 51]
A shot of the train on the rooftop [Hudson’s Bay Company Archives HBCA 1987-363-E-610 – 47]
A copy of the Bay News from December 1964 tells the same story as the Edmonton Journal article. [Hudson’s Bay Company Archives, Archives of Manitoba, Bay News December 1964]
![A group of children lined up on the roof from what was then called the Winnifred Stewart School for Retarded Children. [Hudson's Bay Company Archives, HBCA 1987-363-E-610 - 50]](https://letsfindoutpodcast.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/hbca-1987-363-e-610-50.jpg?w=476&resize=476%2C389&h=389#038;h=389 "HBCA 1987-363-E-610 - 50")
![The train runs behind a prop igloo on the roof [Hudson's Bay Company Archives, HBCA 1987-363-E-610 - 52]](https://letsfindoutpodcast.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/hbca-1987-363-e-610-52.jpg?w=239&resize=239%2C195&h=195#038;h=195 "HBCA 1987-363-E-610 - 52")
![The train running around the snowy roof, with figures inside behind the windows. [Hudson's Bay Company Archives, HBCA 1987-363-E-610 - 51]](https://letsfindoutpodcast.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/hbca-1987-363-e-610-51.jpg?w=239&resize=239%2C190&h=190#038;h=190 "HBCA 1987-363-E-610 - 51")
![A shot of the train on the rooftop [Hudson's Bay Company Archives HBCA 1987-363-E-610 - 47]](https://letsfindoutpodcast.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/hbca-1987-363-e-610-47.jpg?w=466&resize=466%2C385&h=385#038;h=385 "HBCA 1987-363-E-610 - 47")
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